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我当时在纽[音乐]约，我

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那份工作真的让我很难熬

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就是因为它太消耗人了，每天

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我要撑过去所需要的

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[music] to get through every day.

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而且

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我决定删掉我的Instagram，因为

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我就是觉得自己太上瘾了

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[音乐]

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对这种虚假版本的我的生活

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that it was just taking over. I would be

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片场工作，然后过来坐在

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[music] my chair and just scroll,

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刷，刷，刷，刷，然后它

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真的

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真的成了一个 problem。我就是

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对它着迷了，我着迷于

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[音乐]去查人们在

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说什么，人们怎么想，他们对我

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有什么看法。

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所以我决定

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发一个声明，[音乐]很不幸

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我们不得不这么做，说

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我要暂时离开社交

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媒体，我，我试着把自己

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摆在一个

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>> [音乐]

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>> 说法的位置上，就像我要暂时离开

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社交媒体，因为我觉得我的

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心理健康会从中受益。而

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真正让我难过的是

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媒体拿这个[音乐]大做文章，他们

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试图把它说成是我经历了这种

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精神崩溃。如果我真的是

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精神崩溃，那也不该由你们来

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report on. They they they took the story

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带向了错误的方向，他们，他们

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又一次给心理健康抹上了这种

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负面的色彩[音乐]，而不是说

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哦，他这么做了，他这么做没问题

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这么做，所以我们都该觉得可以

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也这么做。他们[音乐]说哦，

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看，他不是你想象中那个完美的

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无忧无虑的孩子。他

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在纽约精神崩溃了。

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就像我们节目的信息是

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寻求[音乐]帮助应该是

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我们应该庆祝的事。

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>> 对。如果你在挣扎，如果你需要

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帮助，

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如果你感觉不好，你醒来然后

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你去找朋友、治疗师、

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[music] teacher, an employee, or a

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同事，你可以说我真的很需要

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一些帮助。这应该是

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我们拍拍你[音乐]肩膀的事。

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就像我很想帮你。

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I'm I'm delighted that you asked me.

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对，不一定非得是

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专业人士。

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>> 对。

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>> [音乐]

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>> 我经常找朋友，而且，你

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know, some friends are better than

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others in certain situations. I've got

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一些朋友就是那种

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振作起来继续干

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and then other friends who are like come

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在我肩膀上哭一场，但

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就是不一样。所以我真的

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希望这就是节目能做的，

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[音乐]就是描绘这种积极的

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画面，寻求帮助是

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值得骄傲的事。

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>> 嗯，这是个很棒的信息，我

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觉得我们都都需要听到。而且

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我想往回说一点，因为

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你

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决定暂时息影。

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[音乐]

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>> 我只是暂时不演戏，因为

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我是个演员。

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不是演戏本身的问题。我只是

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太幸运了，这辈子一直

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工作得太多了。我只是想

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休息一下。我只想在一个

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place for a while. I wanted to be with

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朋友们在一起，和家人在一起，

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>> [音乐]

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>> 搬进我的房子。

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所以，不一定是

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天哪，我需要从演戏中

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休息一下，因为太累了[音乐]。我只是

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需要从奔波中休息一下，

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从工作中休息一下，而且，我

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很多成长都是在路上完成的。我

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需要在家里完成很多成长。

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交水费，交

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市政税，整理垃圾桶，

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所有这些学校不教你的

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东西，我觉得应该

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有一堂课。我觉得学校

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应该有一堂课叫

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生活，

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就是洗衣服、基本做饭，

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比如

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我没想到[音乐]水是要

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付钱的。我以为那是

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住在英国的一大福利，水从天上

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下来，然后从

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水龙头里出来。我的水费

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欠了好多。我都没意识到。现在

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up to date now, don't worry.

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>> [笑声]

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>> 所以，对，我只是想趁这个

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机会休息一下，说起来又很遗憾，

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说到媒体和他们怎么歪曲

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things [music] and that they kind of ran

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这个说法走了，说没错，这个剧确实

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把我搞垮了，没错，确实很难，但是

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我本可以回去工作的。我本来

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就一直打算在这个

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工作之后休息一段时间。

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>> 我确实放弃了很多东西。

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>> 嗯。

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>> 我觉得如果我没有离开

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certain situations, let's just put it at

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that, I would be a very different person

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人。

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>> 嗯。

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>> I've been really
good at keeping [music]

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保持联系，跟家人

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保持亲近，听取教训，

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不被好莱坞的

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炒作冲昏头脑。我真的很喜欢

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拍电影，但我真的不喜欢

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好莱坞。它不适合我。这个

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行业真的让我害怕。我

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明白我是这个行业的一部分，

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我也享受我和它的那种

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互动，但话虽如此，

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我一直在寻找办法

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把自己从中抽离出来，尽量

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过尽可能正常的生活。

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但是的，我确实觉得

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这是一个持续的想法，

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那就是不要迷失自己。我见过

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太多在我之前的人迷失了

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自己，我还有从小一起

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长大的朋友，现在

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已经不是我的朋友了，因为他们

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在这个行业里迷失了自己。

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而且

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>>

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>> 我真的真的很想专注于

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on what makes me happy, which is my

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家人，我的朋友，我的

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carpentry, my golf, um the charity that

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我妈妈跑步。就那种东西

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[音乐]让我特别开心，而且

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那是我应该保护的东西。

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My relationship is the thing that I keep

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的东西。我不谈它。

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>> [音乐]

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>> 我尽力让它尽可能私密

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我们俩都强烈觉得

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那是对我们[音乐]最健康的方式

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让我们作为一对伴侣继续走下去。所以我

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确实尽量让自己[音乐]远离

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它。比如你永远不会在颁奖礼上看到我，除非我非去不可。

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我绝不会去一个红毯活动

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如果我不[音乐]在那部电影里，你

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that I'm [music] not in the film of, you

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know. I don't want the attention when I

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爱随之而来的压力。

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Billie Jean King有一句话

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就在

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嗯

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她在纽约的球场看台上

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写着压力是一种特权。

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这太对了。天哪，

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每天都能感受到压力，以

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[音乐]我们所感受到的那种程度，

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真是一种特权。我爱感受

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压力。我觉得我在

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压力下茁壮成长。我打过最好的高尔夫

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就是有摄像机

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周围有人在看的时候。我

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就觉得那是非常棒的

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一种体验。[音乐]

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所以我趁能享受的时候享受，然后当

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它变得有点过头了，我就变得

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有点像隐士，然后我就消失了。我

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回到Kingston，打高尔夫，打

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网球，和朋友

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play tennis, I hang out with my friends

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and my family, do the pub quiz, and

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and and sort of stuff.

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>> 是啊。

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>> 嗯，所以是啊，这是我

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会主动去做的事。随着我年纪渐长，这

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反而越来越容易了。

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>> 是啊。

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One of the things that you mentioned

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[音乐]是，你大概一年半前

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drinking about a year and a half ago.

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>> 是的。

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>> 你说那是你做过的最难的

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一件事。

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>> 是的。

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>> 我想知道对你来说到底难在

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哪里。为什么会那么难？

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>> 挺有意思的。我我不是有一天

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wake up and say I'm giving up drinking.

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我只是

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like many Brits had a very, very boozy

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十二月。圣诞节期间，我在

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度假。我喝了很多。而且我一直

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都很能喝。

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我觉得这方面我是遗传了我妈

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那边的基因。就是我能我能

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喝。

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然后我决定就戒

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January. [music] I just wanted to do Dry

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一月。然后

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我满脑子想的都是喝

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一杯。

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我满脑子都是这个。我我

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醒来就在想这事。我

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一直看钟，什么时候到12点？

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这真的吓到我了。我就

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想，哇，也许

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maybe I have a little bit of an alcohol

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问题。所以，我就决定惩罚

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[音乐]自己，说我也要戒二月。

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我要戒两个月。

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如果我能戒两个月，那我就能

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向自己证明我没有

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问题。

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两个月过去了

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我还是很挣扎。

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我觉得我没法社交。我觉得

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like I couldn't go to the pub and have a

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青柠苏打水。

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我没法出去吃晚饭。我真的

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真的很挣扎。然后[音乐]我

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started to really worry that maybe I had

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an alcohol problem.

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嗯，所以我决定等到

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我的生日，也就是6月1日。[音乐]

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我对自己说，如果我能6个月

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without alcohol, then I can prove to

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自己证明我没有问题。

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>> [音乐]

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>> 等到6月1日的时候，我

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是我人生中最快乐的

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时候。

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我睡得更好了[音乐]。我能

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更好地处理问题。

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片场上出错的事，通常

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会让我炸毛的，我能

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从容应对。

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>> [音乐]

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>> I had so much such better mental

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太多太多。我觉得更健康了。我觉得

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更 fit 了。[音乐]

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我就对自己说，像

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为什么为什么我

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enslaved this drink? Why am I so

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执着于喝这杯

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drink? [music]

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我回头看，会意识到

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我去参加工作的活动时

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>> [音乐]

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>> you know, I can't enjoy myself until

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才能玩得开心。

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我就是

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felt so much pressure. I'm happy to say

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就像我绝对是[音乐]上瘾了

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to alcohol. Not shy away from that at

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all. Anyone that has a beer every day is

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大概都有点问题。

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但没错，你说得对。我会喝

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了又喝喝了又喝然后

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你就会到那个时刻

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你会想，“哇，我不该喝

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最后一杯的。”然后你第二天

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醒来，头疼得要命

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你很难受。我我

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买了一个那种能告诉

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you about your sleep.

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>> 对，Oura Ring。

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>> 对，而且特别神奇，因为我睡不着。

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我就想，“我怎么睡不着？

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我每天工作14个小时。我每天

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在健身房练2个小时。我吃得特别

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健康，但我就是睡不着。我

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[音乐]怎么了？”我买了这个

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ring and it was booze. It just it was it

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completely [music] affected my sleep.

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自从我戒了之后，我在哪儿

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都能睡着。

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>> [笑声]

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>> 你知道吗？还有一点也很有意思，

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going on nights out and having a great

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玩得很开心，[音乐]

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然后到了夜里那个时刻，

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大家开始，你知道，对着你耳朵

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喷口水，每个人都像，“我爱你，

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you, man. I love you so much." And

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你就想，“嗯，太好了。我也

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爱你。明天见。我

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要去睡了。”

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但我现在喜欢做那个人。我喜欢

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早上8点在高尔夫球场

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8:00 a.m. in the morning feeling fresh

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准备开打。而他们有点

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从车里爬出来。所以对，所以我

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我，我

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over the moon to be sober. [music] I

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太喜欢了。我真的问过自己，

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"Why do you drink? Why are you

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drinking?" And a lot of the time my

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答案是为了在社交场合

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感觉更自在一些。

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>> 是啊。

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>> 我就把自己

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放到那些环境里，就是

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force myself to be there. I'd force

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自己去跟人出去玩 [音乐] 然后去

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a club or go to a bar or go to a dinner.

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但过了一阵子我就有点

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觉得，“哥们儿，你得振作

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up here and you can't just live in your

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家里。你得出去

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享受生活，而且 [音乐] 而且如果

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你只是因为

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you're drinking, then you really do have

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有问题了。但我觉得每个人

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for everyone. I had a great support

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系统。Jack 是我最好的哥们儿之一，

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我们一起满世界跑。他

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doesn't drink, and doing it with him was

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对我来说是

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特别有帮助的经历。我弟弟

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总是跟我一起在路上。他非常

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支持我。[音乐]

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然后，对，我就真的下定决心

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了。我就想，“我真的想做

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这件事。我想向自己证明我能做

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到。”

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>> 是啊。

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>> 然后一旦我感受到那些健康上的好处，

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开始 [音乐] 真正感觉

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做回了完整的自己，

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>> 是啊。

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>> 我就想，“天哪，这，这

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the best." But do you not drink?

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>> I haven't drank for 17 years.

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>> 不会吧。恭喜你。太厉害了。

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>> 是啊，真的不可思议。

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>> 哇。

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>> 是世界上最棒的感觉之一。

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>> 我真的很[音乐]幸运，因为我

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life changed slowly.

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我很小的时候就开始演戏了，

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然后大概过了10年

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Spider-Man thing happened.

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>> [音乐]

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>> The Spider-Man of it all was the That

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那是最大的转折点，就是

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一切都变了。我很幸运

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[音乐]我有那些成长岁月

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sort of grow up, make mistakes, learn

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了解片场生活，了解

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电影制作的世界，

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>> [音乐]

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>> 然后蜘蛛侠就来了。但

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那绝对是一条陡峭的学习曲线，

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for sure. Especially when I was like

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真的很年轻。

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>> [音乐]

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>> Maybe I was even 19 when I was shooting

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可能才19岁。

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而且

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你知道，[音乐]我当时是个铁杆的，嗯，

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我是这个工作室的铁杆粉丝。

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我感觉自己好像赢了什么[音乐]

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competition and was allowed to like be

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on set for the day. But then when I had

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to take my mark and do my scene with

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唐尼一起演那场戏的时候，那真的是

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一次让人不知所措的经历，我[音乐]非常

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感谢唐尼，因为我

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试镜的时候，我的试镜有

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pages of dialogue. It was a long scene.

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>> [音乐]

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>> 我的经纪人告诉我背熟

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台词就这些。

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那有点像

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算是[音乐]一点建议，但也

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因为我之前拍自录试镜

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特别懒，我会改写东西

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[音乐]然后改得让它更贴合我的

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口型。

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But they said in this instance, you have

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把它学得完美无缺。

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然后我们拍我和

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Downey的第一条时，[音乐]

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he just started improvising

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and changing everything in the script,

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这算是给了我许可，让我

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跟着他走。

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所以在那场

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戏里，[音乐]我就跟着

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his lead and and we improvised and we

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做了好多东西，那次试镜之后

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我想，我就像，“哦，我

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肯定拿下了。就[音乐]感觉

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太顺了。”但他做的事，真是

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太好了太贴心了，就是我到

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片场时，我的戏份被砍了

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很多，跟我在

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试镜时演的相比，现在就

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a page and a half [music] or maybe even

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两页。

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我们开始拍那场戏，

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Downey就开口了，说，“孩子们

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的台词都哪去了？”[音乐]

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然后Russo大概说，“嗯，你看，

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你知道，这已经是140页的

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剧本了。我们[音乐]不能嗯花

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太多时间在这上面。”

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Downey就是那个说，

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“不不不，你会想要

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花点时间[音乐]在这上面的。就

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我们把试镜那整段都拍了吧。

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你随时可以剪，但

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你会想要拥有它。”

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And they used all of it.

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>> Yeah, that's cool.

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>> And I think that's really cool and I'd

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很想有一天能做到那样。如果我

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有幸能以某种方式把 Miles

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Morales 带进

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我的 Spider-Man 宇宙和 MCU，

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我很想

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为一个年轻孩子做 Downey

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为我做过的事。

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当我签下合同

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出演 Spider-Man 1 时，

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I signed a six-picture deal. I was 18

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岁。

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I was more excited than I'd ever been

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[音乐] 从来没有过。

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而在过去的 10 年里，我一直

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听命于 Marvel 和 Sony。

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而且我很自豪，这是

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我人生中最好的经历。

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我现在到了一个节点，

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我可以说不。

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而现在既然我有了这种

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权力，[音乐]

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我正在挣扎着

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figure out what is the right thing

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[音乐] 做法。

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我现在所处的学习曲线

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就是应对 [音乐] 这种新的

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权力感，确保我不会滥用

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它，

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但要确保我做的是最正确的

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对我 [音乐] 而言

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而不是对制片厂而言。

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也真正是对这个

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角色最好的事。

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我不想为了拍而

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再拍一部电影，我想

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出于正确的理由去做。[音乐] 而且

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现在的我

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navigating and figuring out what [music]

481
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拥有那种力量意味着什么，还有那份

482
00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,360
责任。

483
00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:56,680
>> 是啊。

484
00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:58,400
>> 我绝不是在抱怨。这是个

485
00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,320
很棒的地方[音乐]，

486
00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,680
但它确实会让我夜里睡不着，

487
00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,000
我一直在想

488
00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,720
比如，这样做对吗？

489
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,840
我能对得起这个

490
00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,400
角色吗？

491
00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,080
我能对得起粉丝吗？

492
00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,280
我绝对不想只是为了拍

493
00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,129
而拍一部电影，

494
00:14:14,129 --> 00:14:14,320
>> [音乐]

495
00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,400
>> 因为那不是蜘蛛侠

496
00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,480
所代表的东西。我的一切都归功于[音乐]漫威的粉丝

497
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280
还有我自己。

498
00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,520
They've been so kind and generous to me.

499
00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,120
Like after Civil War came [music] out, I

500
00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,880
felt like Civil War was my audition to

501
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,280
试镜。

502
00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,640
就像我拿到了蜘蛛侠这个角色。

503
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:31,920
I did the film [music] with the Russo

504
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,440
它上映了，那对我来说

505
00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,360
就像是，你们愿意接纳我

506
00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,720
成为蜘蛛侠吗？他们接纳了，我太

507
00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,760
感激[音乐]他们接纳了我。