1 00:00:00,319 --> 00:00:03,000 我们的视野不够宽广 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,400 我们的责任,那是个大 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,309 错误,而且是我的错误,我 4 00:00:08,309 --> 00:00:12,540 很抱歉,我创办了Facebook,我经营它 5 00:00:12,540 --> 00:00:14,849 我对这里发生的一切负责 6 00:00:14,849 --> 00:00:17,340 mr. Zuckerberg would you be comfortable 7 00:00:17,340 --> 00:00:18,930 和我们分享您昨晚住的 8 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:30,029 you stayed in last night know if you've 9 00:00:30,029 --> 00:00:31,830 给任何人发过消息,您愿意 10 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:34,350 和我们分享您发过消息的 11 00:00:34,350 --> 00:00:37,140 那些人的名字吗,参议员,不,我 12 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:39,149 probably not choose to do that publicly 13 00:00:39,149 --> 00:00:41,489 这么做,我觉得这可能就是这一切的 14 00:00:41,489 --> 00:00:45,809 核心,您的隐私权,您隐私权的 15 00:00:45,809 --> 00:00:47,940 边界,以及在现代美国您为了 16 00:00:47,940 --> 00:00:51,059 所谓的连接世界各地的人 17 00:00:51,059 --> 00:00:53,070 而让渡了多少,您最大的竞争对手是谁 18 00:00:53,070 --> 00:00:56,660 参议员,我们有很多竞争对手 19 00:00:56,660 --> 00:00:58,680 senator we have a lot of competitors 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,719 平台,比如Google、Apple、Amazon 21 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:02,969 Microsoft,我们以不同方式 22 00:01:02,969 --> 00:01:04,830 与它们有重叠,在私营领域 23 00:01:04,830 --> 00:01:06,810 难道没有Facebook的替代品吗,有的 24 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:09,840 参议员,普通美国人使用8个 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,760 不同的应用来和他们的 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,979 朋友交流,和人保持联系 27 00:01:13,979 --> 00:01:15,390 从平板应用一直到电子邮件 28 00:01:15,390 --> 00:01:17,759 服务,你们提供的,嗯,我们确实提供 29 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:20,189 一些不同的东西,和你们做的 30 00:01:20,189 --> 00:01:21,960 一样,它和一部分有重叠 31 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,360 您不认为自己有垄断地位,好吧 32 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,750 至少对我来说肯定不是那种感觉 33 00:01:27,750 --> 00:01:29,009 好的,那您是,您是一家科技 34 00:01:29,009 --> 00:01:32,610 to me ok which are you are you a tech 35 00:01:32,610 --> 00:01:35,030 出版商,我们是否对我们的平台上的 36 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:36,900 publisher do we feel a responsibility 37 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:39,630 答案我认为显然是肯定的 38 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:41,159 但我不认为这和根本上还 39 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:43,649 是不相容的 40 00:01:43,649 --> 00:01:45,600 incompatible with fundamentally yet at 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,549 our core being a technology company 42 00:01:47,549 --> 00:01:49,170 where the main thing that we do is have 43 00:01:49,170 --> 00:01:52,740 有工程师并打造产品。你有没有 44 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:55,470 在向广告商出售数据这件事上划过红线 45 00:01:55,470 --> 00:01:57,329 an advertiser it's actually one of the 46 00:01:57,329 --> 00:01:58,680 最重要的部分之一就是 47 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,630 我们不卖数据,广告商 48 00:02:00,630 --> 00:02:02,310 无法获取用户的个人 49 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:03,259 数据 50 00:02:03,259 --> 00:02:05,670 你们有没有通过任何 51 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:07,890 Facebook应用或服务收集过 52 00:02:07,890 --> 00:02:11,620 Facebook application or service 53 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:14,170 参议员,我不认为我们曾经 54 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:17,200 collected the content of phone calls we 55 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,450 have an app called messenger that allows 56 00:02:19,450 --> 00:02:21,760 人们给大多是他们的 57 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,250 Facebook好友发消息。你或高层 58 00:02:24,250 --> 00:02:27,459 领导有没有做过调查,查明Facebook 59 00:02:27,459 --> 00:02:30,549 at Facebook had this information and did 60 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:34,209 他们有没有讨论过 61 00:02:34,209 --> 00:02:37,180 是否应该告知用户,那是在 62 00:02:37,180 --> 00:02:39,720 2015年12月 63 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,000 参议员,回想起来我认为我们显然 64 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,620 认为这是一个错误,我们没有 65 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:46,870 告知用户,而我们是基于 66 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:49,239 错误的信息做出那个决定的,我们以为 67 00:02:49,239 --> 00:02:50,290 这件事已经了结了 68 00:02:50,290 --> 00:02:51,849 数据已经被删除了,所以 69 00:02:51,849 --> 00:02:54,609 是基于那个依据做出了决定 70 00:02:54,609 --> 00:02:56,549 不告知用户,这样对吗 71 00:02:56,549 --> 00:02:58,930 这是我的理解,是的。你知道 72 00:02:58,930 --> 00:03:00,819 国会,那个决定是什么时候 73 00:03:00,819 --> 00:03:04,060 做出的,不告知用户,我不 74 00:03:04,060 --> 00:03:07,030 Facebook从外国宣传所带来的 75 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:08,890 用户互动中赚了多少 76 00:03:08,890 --> 00:03:11,280 foreign propaganda 77 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,590 参议员,我们确实知道的是 78 00:03:14,590 --> 00:03:17,349 IRA,互联网研究机构,那家 79 00:03:17,349 --> 00:03:19,660 Russian firm ran about a hundred 80 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:22,900 thousand dollars worth of ads I can't 81 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:25,180 说我们已经确认了所有 82 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:26,980 foreign actors who are involved here so 83 00:03:26,980 --> 00:03:30,160 I I can't say that that's all of the 84 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,569 钱,但那就是我们已经 85 00:03:31,569 --> 00:03:35,410 identified okay mr. Zuckerberg I come in 86 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:43,209 是带着和平来的,我不想投票非得 87 00:03:43,209 --> 00:03:47,889 监管 Facebook,但老天,我会的,但 88 00:03:47,889 --> 00:03:53,680 很多都取决于你,我 89 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,370 这话说得客气点 90 00:03:56,370 --> 00:04:00,930 你的用户协议烂透了 91 00:04:01,820 --> 00:04:04,470 用户协议的目的就是 92 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:07,890 保护 Facebook 的屁股,不是 93 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:11,280 告知用户他们的权利,现在 94 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:17,850 你知道这点,我也知道,你 95 00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:21,390 愿意回去,去努力 96 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,760 给我更大的权利来删除我的 97 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,290 数据吗,参议员,你已经可以删除 98 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:29,940 of the data that's there or we don't 99 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:31,380 扩大那个,努力扩大 100 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:36,270 那个,参议员,我觉得我们已经做了 101 00:04:36,270 --> 00:04:38,280 你说的那个,但当然我们 102 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:39,900 一直在努力让这些 103 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:42,090 控制更容易,你愿意 104 00:04:42,090 --> 00:04:44,520 扩大我的权利,让我知道你在 105 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:51,260 跟谁分享我的数据吗,参议员,我们已经 106 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:54,450 给你一个你正在使用的应用列表 107 00:04:54,450 --> 00:04:56,730 你自己登录了那些 108 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:58,980 并提供了明确同意,对 109 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,540 就像我之前说的,我不分享任何 110 00:05:00,540 --> 00:05:03,030 数据,用户协议,你 111 00:05:03,030 --> 00:05:06,240 愿意扩大我的权利来禁止 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,390 你分享我的数据吗,参议员,再说一次我 113 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:13,950 相信你已经有了那个 114 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:16,620 控制权,所以我的意思是,我觉得人们 115 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:18,330 今天在系统里已经有了 116 00:05:18,330 --> 00:05:20,190 already today if we're not communicating 117 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:22,770 传达这一点,那是个大问题 118 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:25,850 我们应该努力解决,我猜 119 00:05:25,850 --> 00:05:29,730 Facebook's been served as subpoenas for 120 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,590 传票,是吗 121 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:36,750 对,没错,如果你是Facebook的任何人 122 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:38,700 Facebook but interviewed by the special 123 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:42,720 采访的话,是的,你有没有 124 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,070 interviewed I have not I have not others 125 00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:49,410 有,我相信有,我这里想 126 00:05:49,410 --> 00:05:54,270 careful here because that our work with 127 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:56,850 特别检察官的工作是保密的 128 00:05:56,850 --> 00:05:58,169 I want to make sure that in an open 129 00:05:58,169 --> 00:05:59,640 会议上我不会透露 130 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,660 保密的东西