1 00:00:00,319 --> 00:00:03,000 we didn't take a broad enough view of 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,400 our responsibility and that was a big 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,309 mistake and it was my mistake and I'm 4 00:00:08,309 --> 00:00:12,540 sorry I started Facebook I run it and 5 00:00:12,540 --> 00:00:14,849 I'm responsible for what happens here 6 00:00:14,849 --> 00:00:17,340 mr. Zuckerberg would you be comfortable 7 00:00:17,340 --> 00:00:18,930 sharing with us the name of the hotel 8 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:25,970 you stayed in last night 9 00:00:25,970 --> 00:00:30,029 know if you've 10 00:00:30,029 --> 00:00:31,830 messaged anybody this week would you 11 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:34,350 share with us the names of the people 12 00:00:34,350 --> 00:00:37,140 you've messaged a senator no I would 13 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:39,149 probably not choose to do that publicly 14 00:00:39,149 --> 00:00:41,489 here I think that maybe what this is all 15 00:00:41,489 --> 00:00:45,809 about your right to privacy the limits 16 00:00:45,809 --> 00:00:47,940 of your right to privacy and how much 17 00:00:47,940 --> 00:00:51,059 you give away in modern America in the 18 00:00:51,059 --> 00:00:53,070 name of quote connecting people around 19 00:00:53,070 --> 00:00:56,660 the world who's your biggest competitor 20 00:00:56,660 --> 00:00:58,680 senator we have a lot of competitors 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,719 who's your biggest the other tech 22 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:02,969 platforms so Google Apple Amazon 23 00:01:02,969 --> 00:01:04,830 Microsoft we overlap with them in 24 00:01:04,830 --> 00:01:06,810 different ways isn't an alternative to 25 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:09,840 Facebook in the private sector yes 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,760 senator the average American uses 8 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,979 different apps ok communicate with their 28 00:01:13,979 --> 00:01:15,390 friends and stay in touch with people 29 00:01:15,390 --> 00:01:17,759 ranging from tablet apps to email 30 00:01:17,759 --> 00:01:20,189 service you provide well we do provide a 31 00:01:20,189 --> 00:01:21,960 number of differences clitter the same 32 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:24,360 as what you do it overlaps with a port 33 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,750 you don't think you have a monopoly all 34 00:01:27,750 --> 00:01:29,009 right certainly doesn't feel like that 35 00:01:29,009 --> 00:01:32,610 to me ok which are you are you a tech 36 00:01:32,610 --> 00:01:35,030 company or you the world's largest 37 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:36,900 publisher do we feel a responsibility 38 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:39,630 for the content on our platform the 39 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:41,159 answer to that I think is clearly yes 40 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:43,649 and but I don't think that that's 41 00:01:43,649 --> 00:01:45,600 incompatible with fundamentally yet at 42 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,549 our core being a technology company 43 00:01:47,549 --> 00:01:49,170 where the main thing that we do is have 44 00:01:49,170 --> 00:01:52,740 engineers and build products have you 45 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:55,470 ever drawn the line on selling data to 46 00:01:55,470 --> 00:01:57,329 an advertiser it's actually one of the 47 00:01:57,329 --> 00:01:58,680 most important parts of how Facebook 48 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,630 works is we do not sell data advertisers 49 00:02:00,630 --> 00:02:02,310 do not get access to people's individual 50 00:02:02,310 --> 00:02:03,259 data 51 00:02:03,259 --> 00:02:05,670 have you ever collected the content of 52 00:02:05,670 --> 00:02:07,890 phone calls or messages through any 53 00:02:07,890 --> 00:02:11,620 Facebook application or service 54 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:14,170 senator I don't believe we've ever 55 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:17,200 collected the content of phone calls we 56 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,450 have an app called messenger that allows 57 00:02:19,450 --> 00:02:21,760 people to message their mostly their 58 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,250 Facebook friends did you or senior 59 00:02:24,250 --> 00:02:27,459 leadership do an inquiry to find out who 60 00:02:27,459 --> 00:02:30,549 at Facebook had this information and did 61 00:02:30,549 --> 00:02:34,209 they not have a discussion about whether 62 00:02:34,209 --> 00:02:37,180 or not the users should be informed back 63 00:02:37,180 --> 00:02:39,720 in December of 2015 64 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,000 senator in retrospect I think we clearly 65 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,620 view it as a mistake that we didn't 66 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:46,870 inform people and we did that based on 67 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:49,239 false information that we thought that 68 00:02:49,239 --> 00:02:50,290 the case was closed 69 00:02:50,290 --> 00:02:51,849 and that the data had been deleted so 70 00:02:51,849 --> 00:02:54,609 there was a decision made on that basis 71 00:02:54,609 --> 00:02:56,549 not to inform the users is that correct 72 00:02:56,549 --> 00:02:58,930 that's my understanding yes do you know 73 00:02:58,930 --> 00:03:00,819 when that Congress when that decision 74 00:03:00,819 --> 00:03:04,060 was made not to inform the users I don't 75 00:03:04,060 --> 00:03:07,030 how much revenue did Facebook earn from 76 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:08,890 the user engagement that resulted from 77 00:03:08,890 --> 00:03:11,280 foreign propaganda 78 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,590 well senator what we do know is that the 79 00:03:14,590 --> 00:03:17,349 IRA the internet research agency the the 80 00:03:17,349 --> 00:03:19,660 Russian firm ran about a hundred 81 00:03:19,660 --> 00:03:22,900 thousand dollars worth of ads I can't 82 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:25,180 say that we've identified all of the 83 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:26,980 foreign actors who are involved here so 84 00:03:26,980 --> 00:03:30,160 I I can't say that that's all of the 85 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,569 money but that is what we have 86 00:03:31,569 --> 00:03:35,410 identified okay mr. Zuckerberg I come in 87 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:38,069 peace 88 00:03:38,069 --> 00:03:43,209 I don't want to vote to have to 89 00:03:43,209 --> 00:03:47,889 regulate Facebook but my god I will but 90 00:03:47,889 --> 00:03:53,680 that a lot of that depends on you and I 91 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,370 say this in gently 92 00:03:56,370 --> 00:04:00,930 your User Agreement sucks 93 00:04:01,820 --> 00:04:04,470 the purpose that User Agreement is to 94 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:07,890 cover Facebook's rear end it's not to 95 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:11,280 inform your users about their rights now 96 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,790 you know that and I know that 97 00:04:16,790 --> 00:04:17,850 are you 98 00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:21,390 willing to go back and and work on on 99 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,760 giving me a greater right to erase my 100 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,290 data senator you can already delete any 101 00:04:28,290 --> 00:04:29,940 of the data that's there or we don't 102 00:04:29,940 --> 00:04:31,380 need to expand that work on expanding 103 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:36,270 that senator I think we already do what 104 00:04:36,270 --> 00:04:38,280 you're referring to but certainly we're 105 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:39,900 always working on trying to make these 106 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:42,090 controls easier are you willing to 107 00:04:42,090 --> 00:04:44,520 expand my right to know who you're 108 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,670 sharing my data with senator 109 00:04:49,670 --> 00:04:51,260 we already 110 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:54,450 give you a list of apps that that you're 111 00:04:54,450 --> 00:04:56,730 using and you signed into those yourself 112 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:58,980 and provided affirmative consent right 113 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,540 as I've said before I don't share any 114 00:05:00,540 --> 00:05:03,030 datum that User Agreement are you 115 00:05:03,030 --> 00:05:06,240 willing to expand my right to prohibit 116 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,390 you from sharing my dad senator again I 117 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:13,950 believe that you already have that 118 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:16,620 control so I mean I think people have 119 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:18,330 that that full control in the system 120 00:05:18,330 --> 00:05:20,190 already today if we're not communicating 121 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:22,770 this clearly then that's a big thing 122 00:05:22,770 --> 00:05:25,850 that we should work on I assume 123 00:05:25,850 --> 00:05:29,730 Facebook's been served as subpoenas for 124 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,590 the special counselor's office is that 125 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:36,750 correct yes if you were anyone at 126 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:38,700 Facebook but interviewed by the special 127 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:42,720 counsels office yes have you been 128 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,070 interviewed I have not I have not others 129 00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:49,410 have I believe so and I want to be 130 00:05:49,410 --> 00:05:54,270 careful here because that our work with 131 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:56,850 the special counsel is confidential and 132 00:05:56,850 --> 00:05:58,169 I want to make sure that in an open 133 00:05:58,169 --> 00:05:59,640 session I'm not revealing something 134 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,660 that's confidential